(UPDATE: Larry initially promised the book to advanced buyers, ‘if it was the last thing he did’ by 5th January 2009.  Shortly prior to this date he said it would be delayed till on or about the 16th January 2009.  Shortly before this later date he said it would be available within 7 days.  After the 7 day period expired with no book he posted saying it would be available by mid-February.  He also posted an email he allegedly received from someone who was angry and wanted an immediate refund.  He used this opportunity to publicly state the surnames of the two people he had given refunds to already).

Buy his book if you enjoy works of fiction and financing individuals who seek to find profit off the back of murdered individuals who cannot speak for themselves, and who takes this so far as to claim that the dead man’s mother has made a video in support of Larry.  Who has seen this video?  No one that I know and I think it is a fairly safe assumption that IT DOES NOT EXIST!

Buy his book if you thought it was ‘cool’ for him to call Obama’s grandmother’s house and ask Obama’s sister if he could speak to the grandmother as she lay dying (when Obama visited to say farewell) and that he recorded the phone conversation without Maya’s permission and then posted it on his blog site  – I bet he thought that was such a noble prize huh?

AND then for him to later claim that the grandmother was already dead at the time of Obama’s visit but both Obama and Maya were involved in a cover up so it would not hurt Obama politically and news of her death was released at an optimal time to garner sympathy votes for Obama.

Imagine that.  Larry Sinclair, a person who previously served time in prison on felony fraud and who has a long history of moving state to state and using multiple aliases, asking people to believe these tales that paint Obama as coldly and psychopathically ambitious – and who then goes one further to ask us to believe that people such as Obama’s sister, his wife, his pastor and his campaign staff are all of the same mold.

Putting aside any prejudice you may have, try and work out the probability of all of these people being that cold versus someone with Larry’s history.  I know which side I would place my bets upon.

If you still can’t figure it out then at least consider the truism that past behavior is a good indication of present behavior.  While Larry was in jail for felony fraud due to ripping off people with indifference, Obama was eschewing a high salary in favor of aiding less fortunate people in the Chicago community.

The word psychopath definitely comes to my mind but not in respect of Obama.

Buy Larry’s book if you can justify to yourself that a person who engages in actions such as these deserves to profit from them and you would like to help him profit.

In my view, Larry has simply demonstrated that he has as little respect for the dead as he has for the living and in the end a person who can operate at such a level obviously has no respect for themselves.

Oh the number of times that Mr Sinclair has painted himself as a victim – someone attacked for being ‘honorable’ enough to ‘out’ truths about Obama, repeatedly imploring for donations to help him to get his ‘truth’ out.

Let us taste a sample of Larry bemoaning his victim status…

02/05/08: Obama’s Sex & Drug Party pt3

I’m not gonna sit here and let you threaten me and let you make completely false claims about me.  And if you think I am, you got another thing coming.

02/05/08: Obama’s Sex & Drug Party pt4

You want to talk about me slandering people?  I will go after each and every one of you and believe me I have all the time in the world to do it and that, my friends, is the end of this conversation.

02/08/08: The Right Perspective Interview with Larry Sinclair

I mean, if anything, I’m the one being slandered.  I’m the one being attacked.  I’m the one that’s being called all these names, receiving these threats through You Tube email.

02/17/08: Cao and Larry Sinclair Interview

I mean I don’t care if you believe what I’m saying or support what I’m doing you have the right to your own opinions and beliefs, but you do need to be respectful, because if nothing else I have tried to be respectful of everyone.

[yes Larry, you are very trying]

02/28/08: Larry Sinclair’s Fighting On

Now I am not whining or crying about the alleged results of the Polygraph done in Los Angeles on the 21^st of February… Mr Gelb was asked to remove the blood pressure cuff from my left hand which is the same hand he had the little finger thingies connected to – he said that it would not effect the exam but under bilateral on my nerve entrapment(?) and bilateral carpal tunnel syndrome and the cervical, thoraxic and lumbar spine discurniations and S1 disc herniation that I have it would and it was cutting off the circulation and it was causing a vessel to pound and I don’t care, I mean I’m not going to make excuses for what he did or did not do appropriately.

Anyone has valid questions and you have the balls, or backbone or audacity, whatever you want to call it, to identify yourself with ID – you know, I have no problems answering questions to anyone but I will not continue to be bombarded with questions by internet warriors who don’t even have the balls to come out from behind their little screen names and say who they are, ok.

[And how do you think Larry treated anyone that he got the identity of?]

OK – ENOUGH ALREADY – BELIEVE ME, THIS MANTRA GOES ON AND ON AND ON!!! MAYBE HIS COMPLAINTS ARE LONGER THAN THE EVER EXPANDING LIST OF PEOPLE HE HAS MADE ACCUSATIONS AGAINST.

He does not lack for complaints or people to accuse but there is one vital thing that Larry lacks – evidence – the list of excuses for which I am sure we could fill a number of pages with.

If we are to reward a character like Mr Sinclair with our hard earned money, particularly in these times of deep economic uncertainty, that says something about the degree to which our society has degenerated and underscores the deep necessity of trying to change the path that we are on.

Have we not seen enough evidence that change is needed?

I believe rejecting a character such as Mr Sinclair’s should be a non-partisan issue, also transcending any one position on the spectrum of identity politics.

What is Larry now but a beached Jellyfish, seeking a last sting that may bring respite before the sun dries him to a husk?

Why?  Because, by his own words, we know he has engaged in defamation, we just can’t be sure who has been defamed.  Let us consider the evidence:

02/08/08: The Right Perspective Interview with Larry Sinclair

I’ve been trying to get this out since last fall and, umm, You Tube was pretty much a last resort…It’s like, you can come out with anything on any other candidate but the you know, but the golden child and it will be reported… I mean, it should’ve come out back last fall when I first reported it, umm, to NBC [corrects self] MSNBC. Now they ignored it… then I understood why because one of their co-anchors on Morning Joe is actually a family member of the people running his campaign.

03/10/08: Rense Interview

I told you on the first interview that I had with you in January that I had only myself attempted to take this to the press at the 1^st of the year and people have been constantly implying that this story was leaked back in October/November, referring to Robert Novak or the Hillary Clinton campaign whispers and I have told people that I don’t think it was my story that was being whispered about and if in fact it is this story that was being whispered about then the only people that could have leaked this story back then would have been the Obama Campaign because I had not even gone to the media with it.

05/29/08: Rense Interview

…I went to the DNC, I had made it clear that I would go to the DNC’s offices on south capital and asked to speak to someone face to face regarding the complaint that I filed against Barrack Obama last year and why that complaint has been ignored and swept under the rug.

THERE IS DEFAMATION GOING ON HERE.

IF Larry had not gone to anyone else BUT the Obama campaign prior to 1st January 2008 then he has defamed both MSNBC and the DNC.

IF Larry did go to both the MSNBC and the DNC in the fall of 2007 then he has defamed the Obama Campaign as the ‘only source’ of a leak.

Which do you think he defamed?  Whoever it is has legal recourse against him based on this inconsistency.

In recent days he posted on his website a correction to a reader that Nate Spencer died from AIDS, was not murdered, as was recorded on Nate Spencer’s death certificate.

Larry knew long before he attempted to get copies of the death certificates of Nate Spencer, Larry Bland and Donald Young that Nate had died of an illness, was not murdered.  He was TOLD this clearly and he also knew that a lot of people had made an incorrect assumption that Nate was also murdered and that this rumor had circulated online.

So why then, aware of Nate’s death by illness, did he get a copy of Nate’s death certificate, stating on an earlier blog that he had gotten Nate’s and Larry’s death certificates but had been unable to source Donald’s, unless he was tacitly and indirectly feeding the false premise that Nate had been murdered by doing so?

His actions fed the established mis-interpretation, as three murders are more sensational than two are they not?  And yet he did so in an indirect way, where he didn’t say Nate was murdered – so you couldn’t pin that on him, but where people would assume that was the case or why else get the death certificate?

From my perspective this is a classic example of the way that Larry operates.

04/01/08: Affidavit of Lawrence W. Sinclair

In September 2007 I contacted the Presidential Campaign of Barack H. Obama, US Senator of IL, to request that Senator Obama publicly correct his stated drug use record to reflect his use of crack cocaine in November 1999… from the period of Labor day weekend 2007 through November 18, 2007 I did provide a total of four (4) different call back numbers to the Obama campaign.

In late September to early October 2007, I received a call from a male who identified himself as a “Mr. Young” stating he was calling in regards to calls I had made to the Obama campaign. This first call was in fact an attempt by said “Mr. Young“ to obtained from me the identities of anyone I had contacted concerning my 1999 allegations against Senator Obama. The call ended with “Mr. Young stating I would hear from someone in a few days.

In mid to late October 2007,I received a second call from this “Mr. Young” at which time I clearly became aware that this individual was personally involved with Senator Obama rather than an employee of his campaign.

In late October 2007 I received a text message from the gentleman identified as “Mr. Young” in which he stated he was intimately involved with Senator Obama and that Obama was discussing with him and his pastor how to publicly acknowledge Senator Obama’s drug use in 1999…mid to late November 2007 another text message from “Mr. Young”… advises me that Obama will publicly correct his statement as to the last time he used drugs and I did not need to concern myself with publicly disclosing it myself.

The last contact with “Mr. Young” in early December 2007 made it clear to me that Obama had no intentions of publicly acknowledging his 1999 use of crack cocaine and that “Mr. Young” was in fact doing nothing more than milking information from me for Senator Obama’s use.

I had not truly become aware of the murder of Donald Young to the point of understanding this was the individual who had been contacting me last fall until a few weeks ago.

The above constitutes the statement made by Larry Sinclair to the Chicago Police Department

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PROBLEMS WITH LARRY’S DONALD YOUNG STORY

I now outline the problems with Larry’s story, making reference to the source material listed below, which constitutes material transcribed from publically disseminated interviews/documents that are DIRECTLY and IRREFUTABLY related to Mr Sinclair.

The first thing to note is that Larry originally said he was ignored by the Obama campaign [#2]. Larry tries to cover for this inconsistency by saying that he became aware that Mr. Young was not with the campaign but personally involved with Obama [Affidavit]. However, Larry is also stating that it was Mr. Young’s actions that made him hold off going ‘public’ [#5] – which obviously implies a strong link to the business of the campaign and since Larry claims he only left his numbers with the campaign this, by default, makes the campaign the conduit between Young and Sinclair.

It is interesting to note that Larry said his impetus to move from being inspired by Obama to his current course of action was listening to Obama talking to a young person about not having touched drugs since he was a teen [#3]. However, as discovered by LBG of Death by 1000 Papercuts, the very first mention of his past drug use on the campaign trail (which was in fact to a group of teens) was in late November of 2007 [#1]. Why then, was Mr. Sinclair contacting the Obama campaign [#2] and receiving calls from Mr. Young [Affidavit] in September, prior to the stated act that he argues gave him impetus to action?

Returning to the theme of Mr. Sinclair holding off action against the Obama campaign due to Mr. Young’s phone calls and promises that Obama would rectify this himself [#5] and also saying that he did not take his story to the press until the 1^st of January 2008 so any reference to leaks of his story back in 2007 could only have come from the Obama campaign [#4] - it is perhaps a tad on the unfortunate side for Mr. Sinclair that he previously stated that he first reported it to MSNBC last fall and that he had tried everyway possible to get it out since ‘last fall’, resorting to YouTube as a last resort [#3] and it is further unfortunate for Mr. Sinclair that subsequent to those statements he also said he had reported the matter to the DNC last year [#6].

Ah Mr. Sinclair, the truth always shines through the lies in those moments where you do not watch yourself carefully enough and these moments of yours are many.

It is, perhaps, of no surprise that Mr. Sinclair had initially said that his phone company would be able to provide proof of his phone conversations with Mr. Young [#7] but now says that the phone company is unable to provide the records and links this to the grand, nefarious and ever-expanding tale of conspiracy that Mr. Sinclair continues to weave [#8].

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SOURCE MATERIAL BY TIMELINE

[#1]20/11/07: Obama address to high school students re drug past

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhxL3dMAYlU&feature=related

(this video and the connection about mis-matched dates was originally discovered and reported on by LBG of Death by 1000 Papercuts, to view the relevant report please follow this link: http://deathby1000papercuts.com/2008/07/debunking-larry-sinclair-obama-accuser-allegations-based-on-time-travel/#comments. A TV news reporter referred to this as the FIRST time Obama had made reference to his past drug use on the campaign trail.)

[#2]01/23/08: Rense Interview

‘I first decided to approach Obama’s camp in September…I had sent the Obama campaign several emails to their campaign website addressing the issue…I was ignored’.

[#3]02/08/08: The Right Perspective Interview with Larry Sinclair

‘Actually, it’s funny. Everybody keeps saying, “now”. I’ve been trying to get this out since last fall and, umm, You Tube was pretty much a last resort…I mean, it should’ve come out back last fall when I first reported it, umm, to NBC [corrects self] MSNBC…I didn’t really want to come out on You Tube like that because I didn’t think it was the right way to do it. And I tried every possible way, ah, to come out with it.…I was actually, you know, inspired by Barack Obama as well until I saw a young person last fall, and saw Obama make a statement to this person that you know, hey, “I’ve admitted to what I’ve done in the past, but I didn’t…I haven’t done it since my teens”.’

[#4]03/10/08: Rense Interview

‘The second thing I need to address right now is probably is going to come as a bombshell to you as well… Mr Young and I did communicate prior to his death.

…I had only myself attempted to take this to the press at the 1st of the year and people have been constantly implying that this story was leaked back in October/November…and if in fact it is this story that was being whispered about then the only people that could have leaked this story back then would have been the Obama Campaign because I had not even gone to the media with it. I was still in the process of giving Obama the opportunity to come clean.’

[#5]04/01/08: Rense Interview

‘At first I was under the impression that that was the whole purpose behind his contacting me was to let me know and convince me that they were going to do it and at first I did get that feeling and that belief…that’s why I said, well everybody says why did you wait till January…I truly was giving them the opportunity to come forward…when it became very clear to me that that wasn’t going to happen and that the MSM wasn’t going to print anything without having the driver in their hand, which I could not do, I did the YouTube video.’

[#6]05/29/08: Rense Interview

‘…I went to the DNC, I had made it clear that I would go to the DNC’s offices on south capital and asked to speak to someone face to face regarding the complaint that I filed against Barrack Obama last year and why that complaint has been ignored and swept under the rug.’

[#7]06/18/08: National Press Conference with Larry Sinclair

QUESTIONER: ‘Why didn’t you keep your cell phone records when Mr. Young called you? Were you billed for the cell phone?’

SINCLAIR: ‘I have personally contacted Sprint/Nextel approximately two weeks ago…uh…asking that they dig up the records off of their system for each of those phone numbers from those periods and provide them to us… they have confirmed that those records are available.’

QUESTIONER: ‘Are you going to post those on your website as well?’

SINCLAIR: ‘I will.’

[#8]07/24/08: Rense Interview

‘…what I’m finding absolutely amazing is, this is a firm that also represents Sprint Nextel corporation. The same phone company that is telling me they can not find me my phone records.’

Larry emphatically states that his allegations about Obama are not about the gay sex, it just had to come out to explain the crack use, with the added little extra that these scandals are a dime a dozen with regards to politicians these days – ho hum [#2] and it wasn’t intended as a reason not to vote for Obama [#16]. But if the gay sex was not an issue why did Larry go on about the implications of Obama getting busted receiving oral sex in the Whitehouse [#3], or getting caught in another country where gay sex is illegal [#7] or musing about the character of a man who would receive oral sex from strangers [#17]? Further, it was certainly all about gay sex with his Donald Young story. In truth, he has worked this angle all along.

2. ‘Remembering’ his phone calls with Mr. Young

In early February Larry said he considered Obama bi-sexual based on his personal experiences [#4]. In mid February Cao mentions the ‘murdered choir director’ in an interview with Larry Sinclair [#5]. By late February Larry expresses that he truly believes there would be others who had similar tales that would come forward at some point [#7]. By early to mid March he first mentions, in sparse detail, having talked to a Mr. Young after a person emails him about the Young murder, claiming he has an ‘oh my god’ moment. He initially gets Donald’s first name wrong and communicates only that he ‘understands’ Donald was gay [#8].

By the time he submits his affidavit to the CPD on ‘April Fools Day’ he is stating that Mr. Young had directly communicated to him in late October 2007, via text message, that he (Young) was intimately involved with Obama [#9]. Why was there no mention of these very significant conversations until April, regardless of whether Donald was alive or not or was in fact the ‘Mr. Young’ Larry refers to? If he was shopping this to media last year and was not getting any bites wouldn’t it seem obvious to have saved text message details and immediately requested phone records? After all, not only was this evidence of another man having had sexual relations with Obama but Larry claimed the man knew about the gay sex part of Larry’s ‘tale’ without even being told [#9].

The truth of the matter appears to lie buried within this statement:

‘Actually, when I first found out that he had been murdered I didn’t even click, I mean the name didn’t click, it took about a week or so for me to actually piece together (to go) wait a minute, here I am getting phone calls from this person, I’m talking to an individual who himself is openly gay.’ [#11]

But let us peel back the lie and bring out the truth:

‘When I first found out he had been murdered, an openly gay person associated with Obama’s church, it took about a week or so for me to actually piece together a semi feasible tale of a connection between Mr. Young and myself’.

Finally, in July he claimed that it was in March that he started becoming aware of Donald Young [#16], however the Cao interview tells us he was aware of the story weeks earlier [#5].

3. Oral Sex Polygraph Results

There were two question series in the polygraph examination, the first on oral sex and the second on drug use. Larry does not like to talk about the oral sex series because on that he absolutely bombed – unequivocally and strongly the polygrams showed he was lying [#6]. Little wonder then that when he does refer to the polygraph results he focuses on the second series [#14 & #17]. However, given that Larry argued in the first instance that a. the polygraph would be the standard by which his allegations would be proven true [#1], and b. that he had to bring up the oral sex in order to validate the drug claims (i.e. they were inter-dependent) [#2 & #4] then the results of series 1, alone, show his story about Obama to be a lie. Effectively, the bombshell of his Donald Young allegations and continued feeding of that sub-plot served to over-shadow and distract away from his massive failing on the oral sex questions and the implications of that failing therein.

FYI – Dan Parisi held a NPC event on the same day as Larry in which he stated ‘I deny that I ever received any bribe at anytime in regard to the tests. The bribe claims are outlandish and without merit’.

4. Young’s Death and Larry’s Safety

Mr. Sinclair worked to build and reinforce the idea of a sinister Obama who was involved in Donald’s murder and is also a threat to other gay men, as shown in the time-lined comments below:

• In late February/early March he canvasses supporters as to whether he should consider Young’s death ‘a threat’ [#8].
• In mid-May he makes a video saying if he is found dead it should be investigated as a homicide – citing Donald Young’s murder as a basis for his concerns [#12].
• A week later he discusses with the ever complicit Jeff Rense ideas surrounding the danger to Obama employees who are ‘believed’ to be intimately involved with Obama, while also mentioning two other deaths of gay men in the Chicago area, insinuating their death certificates had been pursued and looked into by him or those supporting him [#13].
• By July 1^st he is talking about the amazing number of sites that say Larry will die the same way that Donald died [#15].
• Later in July, just prior to his web-site being shut down, Mr. Sinclair had procured and published Donald Young’s death certificate and raised innuendo and suspicion around its contents.
  

5. Accusations and Excuses for No Evidence

Larry has no one that can prove any of his allegations are true. He claims the limo driver would be able to attest to the oral sex incident – but he has ‘disappeared’. He claims a heck of a lot of actions by someone who cannot speak for himself – Donald Young. Apparently there are Obama campaign workers who could attest to their own relationships with Obama but are too scared to say anything and are getting paid anyway [#13].

Now if I wanted to ‘create’ a rumor about campaign workers who are intimately involved with Obama – what would I do?

a. Search campaign site or images on web for Obama pictured with a male.

b. Keep searching until you find a picture associated with someone who works for the campaign (not difficult to do) but also checks out on their facebook or somewhere on the net that they are openly gay.

c. Claim there is a relationship between this person and Obama. Encourage supporters to leave harassing messages on the person’s facebook page.

d. Hope he responds then you can claim the Obama camp has ‘spoken’ and twist whatever is said against the campaign or if he removes the stimulus (photos) then insinuate this proves ‘guilt’. That is a classic catch-22 stitch up.

SOURCE MATERIAL BY TIMELINE – PART 2

[#1]01/18/08: Original You Tube Video: Obama’s Limo Sex & Drugs

‘During those time periods in 1999, I met Obama at an upscale lounge in Chicago, Illinois.

After having a few drinks, Obama and I left in my limo, began to drink. Mr. Obama acquired powdered cocaine for my use, crack cocaine for his use. I performed oral sex on Senator Obama who at the time was a State Representative for the State of Illinois…If you challenge the authenticity of this allegation, I challenge you to take a polygraph test as I will submit to as well.’

[#2]01/23/08: Rense Interview

‘I never had any intentions of coming forward with any allegations of gay sex against Barrack Obama, but in order for them to understand how I knew and how I saw him doing the crack, it had to come out…When I did become aware that he was involved in state politics it wasn’t that much of an issue with me, I have seen politicians from the local level to the US Government level that have been involved in some freaky things… I mean there’s been many it’s not something that is so unique that it would stop you and make you think.’

[#3]02/05/08: Obama’s Sex & Drug Party pt3

‘Now perhaps you do support Obama and he does make it to the Oval Office and in his first year you know um he’s busted gettin’ head or smoking crack in the White House. You know then you got what you deserve. Right?’

[#4]02/08/08: The Right Perspective Interview with Larry Sinclair

‘Everybody else is accusing me of trying to smear him with gay sex. I don’t care about the sex. I had to bring the sex out because if I come out and said “Hey, Barack Obama smoked crack cocaine.” What’s the first question somebody will ask me, “Well, how do you know?” Well, because I was in the back of a limo giving him head while was doing it. Then they’d call me a liar because I didn’t bring out the sex part to begin with.’

‘Everybody, you know, throwing this thing on me saying he’s gay. I have never said that this man is gay. I can say, from personal experiences that he is definitely bisexual.’

[#5]02/17/08: Cao and Larry Sinclair Interview

Larry: ‘Someone even posted on, they’ve even posted something on the web to where it comes, if you Google my name, stating hey, you know Sinclair is going to be found murdered and then they’re going to try and blame that on Obama too’

Cao comments on murder not being a stretch of the imagination because there is the story of the murdered gay choice director at Obama’s church.

[#6]02/25/08: Polygraph Results

Link: http://www.larrysinclair.org/download/polyresults.pdf

Gelb’s Report on oral sex question (1^st series):

“The issue under consideration dealt with Sinclair’s representation that he had performed oral sex on Barack Obama in 1999. During an extensive pre-test interview, Sinclair emphatically asserted the sex act took place in a limousine rented by him in the Chicago area…Two target questions: Did you perform oral sex on Obama in 1999? Are you lying when you say you performed oral sex on Obama in 1999? The…polygrams were hand-scored as required by the Government in a PCA examination. To render a conclusion of deception there must be a… -3 in any spot or…a grand total of -4 for both spots…Sinclair’s polygrams resulted in an evaluation of “deception indication” with a score of -15 (for the oral sex questions).”

Dr. Barland’s report on the 1^st series:

“I scored the printout of the first series of charts (regarding oral sex)…there were strong and consistent reactions to the relevant questions. I scored the chart as -17 (Deception Indicated).”

[#7]02/26/08: Rense Interview

‘What’s going to happen if he does get in office, like you said, and engages in the same behavior with someone in a foreign country to where not only do they blackmail him but say it is one of those countries where homosexuality of any sort is a federal crime to the point where he would be subject to arrest and prosecution.’

‘I honestly believe that before this is over with I am not going to be standing here alone with these allegations – I truly and firmly believe that eventually there are going to be more people that have had relations with Senator Obama who are going to have the guts and the fortitude to finally come out of the closet so to speak and I think when that happens it is going to be too late for this country.’

‘I am raising questions about the validity of his reports, ok. Dr Gordon made it very clear that the computer analysis of the polygrams indicated no deception indicated yet Dr Gelb did not even include in his report the results of the computer analysis of the exam.’

[#8]03/10/08: Rense Interview

‘The second thing I need to address right now is probably is going to come as a bombshell to you as well. I have received numerous requests over the last few days asking me to respond to allegations going around the internet and some of the blog sites about a rumor that Paul Young – and for those who do not know who Paul Young is – this is the choir director connected to Senator Obama’s church who was found murdered in his home last December. I have refused to comment either way as to whether or not myself and Mr Young had any contact. I had waited for tonight to let you know on your program that there is truth to those allegations but that I cannot get specific on them. I just needed to clear it up because I am just getting bombarded with emails, you know, individuals asking well is it true, what did you say? Mr Young and I did communicate prior to his death and I felt that since you were the first person that actually exposed the story it was only right that I formally comment on those allegations here on the Jeff Rense show…I did not meet with Mr Young face to face at any time.’

‘I just need to clarify something…I think I referred to Mr Young as Paul just now and I am sitting here on my laptop talking to you looking at an email from a Paul Day who has been harassing me and the gentleman’s name was Donald Young.’

‘It’s my understanding that he was (gay).’

[JR: When did you first hear about his (Young’s) murder?] Actually, I really didn’t and that’s the funny thing. I had not really paid that much attention to it.

LS: I had become more aware of Donald’s passing and the circumstances surrounding it after I had posted my YouTube video and I had gotten an email from one of the YouTube users asking me if I had heard about this and when I started looking into it I thought ‘oh my god’, that’s probably why if you notice that I posted on my blog recently asking other people to comment and let me know if I should consider this a threat.

[#9]04/01/08: Affidavit of Lawrence W. Sinclair

Link: http://www.larrysinclair.org/download/affidavit.pdf

‘This first called shocked me in that this “Mr. Young” asked me why I had not asked Senator Obama to disclose sexual encounters I had with Mr. Obama in 1999. I was shocked as I had never mentioned to the campaign or anyone working for the campaign any sexual encounters…In mid to late October 2007,I received a second call from this “Mr. Young” at which time I clearly became aware that this individual was personally involved with Senator Obama rather than an employee of his campaign. The tone of the conversation and the sexual nature of said conversation…In late October 2007 I received a text message from the gentleman identified as “Mr. Young” in which he stated he was intimately involved with Senator Obama…I had not truly become aware of the murder of Donald Young to the point of understanding this was the individual who had been contacting me last fall until a few weeks ago.’

[#10]04/04/08: Rense Interview

‘Everybody’s accusing me of bringing this up now to try and bolster the story but the funny thing is that I hadn’t become fully aware of who I was speaking with and having communications with last fall until a few weeks ago and I had no reason to know who this person was.’

‘At the end of our discussions and our communication it had developed more into him being more friendly, more familiar, kinda like trying to develop a friendship. He disclosed quite a bit of information regarding his own alleged personal involvement and I have to say alleged because I don’t know for a fact. I found it interesting towards the end because it pretty much described similar incidences that I had described between Barrack and myself as to how we met.’

[Rense asks if both Larry and Donald being gay was the reason there was a warming of the relationship between them over the conversations]

‘I think that’s that reason that there was the ability to somehow come close and have that feeling that there was a friendship developing.’

[#11]04/28/08: Rense Interview

‘Actually, when I first found out that he had been murdered I didn’t even click, I mean the name didn’t click, it took about a week or so for me to actually piece together (to go) wait a minute, here I am getting phone calls from this person, I’m talking to an individual who himself is openly gay.’

[#12]05/12/08: Video Statement of Larry Sinclair

‘The threats that I have received have become more intense and in light of the murder of Donald Young and the apparent suicide of Ms Palfrey I thought it important that I make this public statement. In the event that something should happen to me or I am found dead for any reason, my death should be immediately investigated fully as a homicide.’

[#13]05/20/08: Rense Interview

‘…recently i have been attacked, people saying “well how come larry never mentioned this he always said no one from the Obama campaign ever contacted him” and i think i made it very clear on your show when i mentioned the Donald Young incident by the time i realized what was going on and that this was someone personally intimately involved with Barack Obama

‘The other murders that people were trying to tie in as hate crimes saying that Donald Young was the victim of a hate crime along with Larry Bland and Nate Spencer, both of these individuals- can be called up on the social security death index showing their names, date of birth, date of death, where they died, social security number, everything and they do come up, with ease.’

jr- ‘Donald Young dead homosexual murdered very obviously for what he knew about Obama. would you suppose there are others that have had relations with Obama?’
ls—‘there’s no doubt in my mind’
jr—‘and those people are obviously living in great fear and aren’t about to open their mouths’
ls—‘well I’m not going to say all of them are because a couple of them are looks like are actually employed by Barack Obama right now’
jr—‘one way to keep them loyally quiet’
ls—‘YEP’
jr—‘interesting, wouldn’t want to be in their shoes accidents happen having these time Barack bombs walking around isn’t something the Obama camp is going to put up with indefinitely’
ls- ‘and i agree with you and i am hoping that one of them um (clears throat) actually gets that through his head and i think he’s starting to feel a little scared because ever since it was disclosed there was a belief that he was in fact one of the individuals— involved with Barack Obama all of a sudden he started taking down the photos of him and Barack Obama from his facebook ok so i mean it’s interesting that the more we investigate the more that we find the more stuff starts disappearing off the internet.’

[#14]06/18/08: National Press Conference with Larry Sinclair

‘I agreed to take a polygraph test sponsored by whitehouse.com. Whitehouse.com’s own examiner Dr. Gordon Barland, SLC Utah observed that on the drug question regarding Senator Obama that the computerized score found that there was less than one percent probability of deception by me. That’s about as high a passing score as one could possibly obtain.’

[#15]07/01/08: Rense Interview

‘And Jeff, and your reference to Donald Young, it is amazing the number of internet websites I have seen today, I have been directed to today, that have boldly stated that I’m going to end up just like Donald Young. You know they have actually predicted that Larry Sinclair will end up, you know, just a bullet riddled corpse again.’

[#16]07/04/08: Roger Friedinburg

‘I didn’t tell the sex part because, you know, I said it was bad or a reason not to vote for him.’

It was in March that I started becoming aware a Donald Young, who was an openly gay man, a choir director at Trinity United Christian Church, who, ah,…, Barack Obama himself had sent personal condolence letters to his family, after his murder. And I started putting pieces together [went to CPD]…and I told them that I felt that they needed to look into the possibility that Barack Obama and Jeremiah Wright either knew the person that killed Donald Young or actually hired the person that killed Donald Young.’

[#17]07/16/08: Hal Turner

‘i mean, you know – here’s a man that was smoking crack cocaine, getting blowjobs from an openly gay individual that he never met before that night.’

ht: Now you allegedly took a lie detector test.

lws: I took what was supposed to be one, yes.

ht: and, why don’t you tell the folks what the results were.

lws: well, actually I’m still not sure what the results are, because i still haven’t even been provided the, ahh, the raw data or or anything from it other than the reports provided by Dan Parisi. uhh, Edward Ira Gelb, the fake Ph.d claims that the results said i was lying. the computer analysis of the or uhh what raw data was available, made available to uhh, Gordon Barland (sp) …uhh, according to his report, actually showed that no deception….was indicated. however, he did in fact concur with Edward Gelb’s decision, because he wrote something in there and i think there’s some paragraph in there that uhhh, normally if you have a contradiction between the computer analysis and the human score, you tend to refer to the umm, defer to the human score which…i think that sounds a little fishy.

My thanks to Democratista, Heidi, Glix, susanelise, P. and Pete for transcribing material that contributed to the production of this article.

I’ve got, listen, I have the limo driver. Everybody keeps telling me on You Tube, “Put your information out here. Let us investigate it.” I’m not that stupid. Are you kidding me? Everybody on You Tube is trying to kill me…you know…um threaten me…I don’t mean “kill me” literally. I mean, they’re trying to slaughter me online and my character. I’ve got news for ‘em. They can’t do that. I’ve been completely honest about everything about me, but I’m not gonna put in on You Tube for a bunch of, you know, Internet warriors to sit there and play with and twist around.

The limo driver is willing to come forward, but only if it actually gets out there, because he is a personal friend of Barack Obama’s and he is scared to death if he comes out before it gets out there, Obama and Axelrod can shut him up. And those are his concerns and I understand them.

I mean, you know, the driver will come forward, but he’s not going to put him and his family on the line for something that the media is constantly shoving underneath the carpet, and I don’t blame him

02/17/08: Cao’s Interview with Larry Sinclair

Larry: Well actually the limo driver has from the minute I’ve contacted him and told him that I was coming forward with this, has always said he that would come forward once it out in the public spectrum to where he felt that he would have a sense of public protection, in other words it has not reached a level to where if he came forward he doesn’t feel comfortable that he would not be physically attacked or action taken against him.

02/23/08: Sinclair YouTube Meltdown

LarrySinclair0926

I have given up the driver. You gutless punk bitch motheerfucker.

LarrySinclair0926

The following is a gift to all in a “pay it forward” dedicated to thedon, the name of the driver for 5 star limo service is P. Multani.

02/24/08: Parisi/Sinclair Emails

Parisi: It is past 12:00. We called you several times already today. Can you put us in touch with him [the driver] now. Thanks

Larry: No, I can not and will not, you are posting that I lied, why would I put him in the middle of your firestorm now.

03/15/08: Larry Sinclair Interview with Cao

If this gentleman or anyone else on the internet thinks and ever thought for a minute that I would put this individual’s identity out on the internet for them to do what they have done to these two charities; that were donated the money to that ended up giving it back because of the web and phone harassment that they received. Okay? Then some of these people are bigger idiots than they call me to think that anyone would ever subject someone to the type of ridicule and harassment and threats, because all that would have done was make this person shut up rather than come out.

05/07/08: Victor email to Larry (posted by Larry (?) at BHDC

In my view the best thing would be to call a press conference and release the information about the driver, if possible: the press won’t come unless one or more major media indicate that they will: you may need some political help to get some of the press to show up.

05/29/08: Rense Interview

Um, my attorney’s and I have decided that we are going to go through the attorney’s ah to make an offer to the driver to come forward under oath with the attorney and we would redact his personal information before we released anything and but if he chooses not to agree to that then in approximately two weeks, we’re going to give them two weeks to actually accept the offer, and if they don’t then we are going to publically disclose the driver, the name, the information, ah phone numbers, addresses, everything and you know, he’s going to have to deal with it from there, I’m not going to continue to take a beating.

06/18/08: National Press Conference with Larry Sinclair

Whose name I now reveal for the first time, Jagir Paramjit Multani… One note: There is a typo on the statement that you will get at the end of this statement. We will put an updated and corrected version on a website that you will also be given access to as far as the name is concerned (amended to Jagir P. Multani).

Many thanks to my fellow warriors for truth – Heidi, Glix, K-Street and Susanelise – for transcription work and research work that made this article possible. Thanks also to the wonderful archives of MrSircy.

Caller: Wants to know when the limo driver will come forward.

Larry: …Now there are some issues that surround the company and some of those issues are immigration issues I don’t know if those pertain to the driver himself. I do know the driver was family members to the owners of Five Star Limo so I mean you know, there’s a lot of issues there as far as him feeling that he has the protection he needs, and I don’t blame him, because, I mean my God look at what I’ve gone through just on coming out on YouTube

Helper says it sounds like the limo driver is an illegal alien.

Larry: Well I’m not going to say that much, I do know there were some immigration issues involving one of the members of the family that owned Five Star Limo it is public record, it’s out there. I’m not going to say he’s an illegal alien, but I do there were some issues involving some of his family members, now whether that pertains to him specifically, personally and directly, I don’t know.

02/23/08: Sinclair YouTube Meltdown

The following is a gift to all in a “pay it forward” dedicated to thedon, the name of the driver for 5 star limo service is P. Multani.

03/01/08: Larry/Jay Aut Witch Interaction – BHDC

918. Jay said:

Those investigating this limo business might also be interested in this court case re a Multani that I found: http://altlaw.org/v1/cases/155367 [note: this case refers to a Paramjit Singh Multani] Illegal immigrant – repeat offender…Documents strongly indicate he would have been in Chicago around 1999. Didn’t Larry mention something about ‘family had a member with immigration issues?’

984. Lorenzo said:

JAY You post claiming this individual is somehow the limo driver and or related has been investigated and found by John Crewdson of he Tribune not to be. But I already knew that. I am posting this for you so that you might be able to keep from looking like a complete ass and/or idiot. But I guess it is to late for that.

03/26/08: Citizen Wells Blog Post

One of the encounters was alleged to be in a limousine from 5 Star Limousine Service in Chicago. Sinclair states that the limousine driver’s name is P Multani. Sinclair has also stated that in the past he has helped illegal aliens. There was a Paramjit Singh Multani, from India, in this country illegally and he was in Chicago around the time of the alleged limousine encounter. Is Larry Sinclair using information he had about an illegal alien and Barack Obama’s schedule to fabricate this story or is this story real?

04/07/08: Citizen Wells Blog Post

Sinclair has stated in the past that he helped illegal aliens. He also stated that the name of the limo driver is P Multani. An illegal alien by the name of Paramjit Singh Multani was in this country illegally and a hearing was set for him in Chicago in 2000. This is near the time of the alleged encounter between Larry Sinclair and Barack Obama. Some one commented on this blog several days ago and pointed out that a Paramjit Singh Multani is a licensed taxi driver in Maryland.

[Response from Sinclair: “Thought you should know I did not state the above was the limo drivers name. That is an assumption that internet warriors for Obama made and claimed].

05/29/08: Rense Interview

John Crewdson he’s a Pulitzer Prize winner writer for the Chicago Tribune and he is the one person who has sat down with me over the course of 5 days. He spoke to the driver’s wife, I mean it’s not like it’s not known, ok, he himself had made it clear to me that he did not necessarily need to break the agreement that I had with the driver as far as not exposing until the driver chose to be exposed but that he needed to confirm that this person existed. Oh yeah, he spoke to the driver’s wife and to the driver’s son and even to this day, after telling me he just needed to at least be able to say ‘yeah, this person really exists’, he’s known that the driver truly exists and he’s known since February.

06/18/08: National Press Conference with Larry Sinclair

On November 6th of 1999 I asked the limo driver whose name I now reveal for the first time, Jagir Paramjit Multani, if he knew anyone who would like to socialize and show me Chicago.

06/18/08: Press Statement of Larry Sinclair

I asked the limo driver – whose name I now reveal for the first time – Paramjit Multani, if he knew anyone who would like to socialize and show me Chicago.

After press conference

Name amended to Jagir P. Multani.

Paramjit’s Alt Law Case

Indicates a person who has used a variation of his name to avoid being detected for not revealing his past deportation history.

SUMMARY

Larry originally gave the name P. Multani then claimed the P to be a typo. When Paramjit was first referred to he denied this being the person – Crewsdon had ‘checked it out’. Eventually the press conference comes out – the written statement with Paramjit Multani, Larry himself recorded as saying Jagir Paramjit Multani, then ‘another’ typo – hide the ‘middle’ name. Everything appears to point to Paramjit Multani of the Altlaw case being the person Larry is alluding to as the limo driver – that being said………(Part 3 follows)

Many thanks to my fellow warriors for truth Glix and susanelise and the work of LBG of Death by 1000 Papercuts and MrSircy – all of whom made this article possible.

At that time the driver told me it would be easier for him to go ahead and drop me off at the hotel and that he could take Barack back to his car. So I said fine, I had no problem with it, they were friends, they knew each other…

02/08/08: The Right Perspective Interview with Larry Sinclair
Frank: Yea, but Uncle Warren noticed something. You said the limo guy is a good friend of Obama. So Obama knows who the limo driver is.

LWS: You know, I would be willing to bet you he’s trying his damnedest right now to remember exactly which friend is his.

Frank: Well, if he wants to find out, he could go, he has the resources to find out who it is. I mean, he could go back he could go back to that date and find out who it is.

LWS: And why do you think I have been pushing so hard, since I was informed of them conducting the investigation into me to get this out before that happened. But I’ll be honest with you, I don’t think Obama will find him. Not this fast.

The limo driver is willing to come forward, but only if it actually gets out there, because he is a personal friend of Barack Obama’s and he is scared to death if he comes out before it gets out there, Obama and Axelrod can shut him up

06/18/08: National Press Conference with Larry Sinclair
Mr. Multani understood that I was looking for someone who knew Chicago and would enjoy socializing. Mr. Multani said he knew someone who was a friend of his. On November 6, 1999 after picking me up at the hotel in Gurnee, and this is significant, Mr. Multani used his cell phone to make a call. That call was made to then Illinois State Senator Barack Obama to set up an introduction between myself and Senator Obama.

Paramjit S. Multani Alt Law Case
Noted: first entered US illegally in 1987, arrested in Florida in 1991, failed to appear. Turned up in California in 1996, providing a variation of his name and did not acknowledge his prior deportation history and said he first came to the US in 1994. Failed to appear. Found in US again in 1998 and a warrant for deportation was ordered but in February 1999 he wrote a letter to INS to say he had self-deported to Canada. He illegally re-entered the country 8 months later – putting re-entry at October 1999. He was quickly caught up with and applied for adjustment of status – his case transferred to Chicago in 2000. His request to become a US citizen was once again denied in July 2006. Later documentation confirms that Mr Multani was granted citizenship in April 2007.

Larry’s old WordPress blog – prior to the Press Conference
Many will attest that Larry Sinclair made a post on his blog where he posed a ‘what if’ question – that he took effort to reinforce the fact that it was just a ‘what if’, but what if the limo driver was a business associate of Obama’s and was still a business associate of Obama’s to this day.

SUMMARY
Assuming that the man Larry Sinclair is pointing toward is indeed Paramjit Multani (and it certainly seems that this is what is being implied, if not in a somewhat slippery fashion) then how does a man, with repeated deportation issues, who only showed up in Chicago in October 1999 – mere weeks before Larry’s alleged incident took place, have held the status of a ‘personal friend’ of Obama’s much less a business associate? I believe it is this sticking point that prevents Sinclair definitively committing to the driver as ‘Paramjit Multani’.

Further, why does Sinclair spend so much time in his first Rense interview using language such as ‘the way I understood it’, ‘apparently’ with regards to the driver being a personal friend of Obama’s when he later says in his press conference that ‘Mr Multani said he knew someone who was a friend of his’. There should have been no mention of a gradual awakening to Obama being a personal friend of the limo driver if the limo driver had made that upfront statement.

This gradual awakening is even more strange in light of the statement made by Sinclair that ‘the limo driver is willing to come forward, but only if it actually gets out there, because he is a personal friend of Barack Obama’s and he is scared to death’. If he had been in contact with the limo driver the way he has implied he was then he should have stated all along that they were and still are friends.

The ‘what if’ that Larry posted on his blog with reference to the limo driver potentially still being a business associate of Obama’s seems to be a fishing expedition to see how that theory would fly for Larry NOT being able to produce a limo driver – a fact we are made aware of when Larry tells the press conference the limo driver has disappeared.

There are many logical inconsistencies with this story of the limo driver. Why would a limo driver who was a business associate of Obama’s talk to Larry in the first place, particularly if Larry was floating the implication that the driver didn’t want to come forward so as to protect his business association? How could the limo driver have been a personal friend of Obama’s when he had barely been in the Chicago area by November 1999? How was Larry able to locate the limo driver, remember his name even, if he was only exposed to him for 2 to 3 days 8 years prior and if the company the driver allegedly worked for wound up in 2000?

All of these issues strongly point to complete fabrication and given the centrality of the limo driver to Larry’s allegations we are informed that Larry’s tale of meeting Obama is indeed a complete fabrication.

WHAT’S MORE

Larry cannot even keep his story straight about how many nights he employed the limo driver:

01/23/08: Rense Interview
“Well, I had told the driver the incident before when I had hired the company to take me out with my Godson, that I was going to spend another night out.”

02/18/08: Jim Sumpter Show
“I had hired the limo for three nights during that trip.”

“I had the same limo driver on all three occasions (nights). I had already informed the service, as well as the driver, that I wanted him to be the driver on Saturday.”

06/18/08: National Press Conference with Larry Sinclair
On November 5, 1999 I hired the services of Five Star Limosine….(cough)…excuse me. I had hired them both for November 5th and November 6th of 1999.

Many thanks to my fellow warriors for truth Heidi, Glix, Democratista and the work of LBG of Death by 1000 Papercuts – all of whom made this article possible.